Comments on: SEO Predators: Willing to Decieve For Business http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/ A search marketing blog for advertising agency, in-house & PR professionals Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:57:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tammy http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7259 Tammy Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:37:34 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7259 I totally agree! I hate to watch good clients go to these "experts" and than return to me to fix all the errors! It is insane, it doesn't make sense to pay these guys, they don't care about clients and they cost us money & time! Thank you for another wonderful post! I totally agree! I hate to watch good clients go to these “experts” and than return to me to fix all the errors! It is insane, it doesn’t make sense to pay these guys, they don’t care about clients and they cost us money & time! Thank you for another wonderful post!

]]> By: Andrew Goodman http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7252 Andrew Goodman Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:46:42 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7252 Aptly put, Marty. This isn't kindergarten. One of the points that bothers me most is the HTML validation trick. Anyone can bulk up a "report card" with finger-pointing blame about factors that have little to do with SEO, and - as important as compliant code is in general - are pretty typical across even well-coded websites. And the funny thing is, you see that HTML validation critique traded all around the web and thrown in companies' faces as if they should be all red-faced about something a validator tool came up with that was minutely out of keeping with some supposed ideal standard. Code assessment is definitely important, but this is not kindergarten and it would be nice if these predators weren't so cynical in their efforts to shout "boo!" in relation to phantom problems. There are more than enough *real* website and SEO problems to fix, after all! Aptly put, Marty. This isn’t kindergarten. One of the points that bothers me most is the HTML validation trick. Anyone can bulk up a “report card” with finger-pointing blame about factors that have little to do with SEO, and – as important as compliant code is in general – are pretty typical across even well-coded websites.

And the funny thing is, you see that HTML validation critique traded all around the web and thrown in companies’ faces as if they should be all red-faced about something a validator tool came up with that was minutely out of keeping with some supposed ideal standard.

Code assessment is definitely important, but this is not kindergarten and it would be nice if these predators weren’t so cynical in their efforts to shout “boo!” in relation to phantom problems. There are more than enough *real* website and SEO problems to fix, after all!

]]> By: Before You Pay for Cheap SEO Read This Article by Aaron Wall and SEOBook - SEO Aware http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7241 Before You Pay for Cheap SEO Read This Article by Aaron Wall and SEOBook - SEO Aware Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:48:09 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7241 [...] is another great article by Marty Weintraub -   SEO Predators: Willing to Deceive For Business Melissa – SEO Aware Posted by Melissa in Article Recommendations, Blog on Aug 4th, 2009 | no [...] [...] is another great article by Marty Weintraub -   SEO Predators: Willing to Deceive For Business Melissa – SEO Aware Posted by Melissa in Article Recommendations, Blog on Aug 4th, 2009 | no [...]

]]> By: SEO Aware http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7240 SEO Aware Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7240 I love you even more for this, Marty. I love you even more for this, Marty.

]]> By: arnie00717 http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7229 arnie00717 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:57:34 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7229 Yeah such kind of things are happening in market. I don't wanna name a big company that did to my client. Well Written post. Yeah such kind of things are happening in market. I don’t wanna name a big company that did to my client. Well Written post.

]]> By: Barry Hurd http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7228 Barry Hurd Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:45:33 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7228 It is amazing that this stuff happens, but the real reason it happens is less laughable. The reason the boiler room sales force is hitting every business is because most business decision makers have no idea what the truth really is... and they believe the best "visual" or "pitch" If you get really geeky and start quoting metrics and statistics, a less knowledgeable soul may just concede that you "must be right" The education in many medium to large business units is years (or decades) behind the impact this is having. I wrote up a post a week or two ago on "top CMO quotes" that I had heard in the past six months from veteran marketers at enterprise corporations. We can all get a little chuckle out of stuff like this, but as long as big business turns a blind eye to eduction in this realm, the snake oil salesman are going to be banging on every door asking for a check. ~Barry Hurd It is amazing that this stuff happens, but the real reason it happens is less laughable. The reason the boiler room sales force is hitting every business is because most business decision makers have no idea what the truth really is… and they believe the best “visual” or “pitch”

If you get really geeky and start quoting metrics and statistics, a less knowledgeable soul may just concede that you “must be right”

The education in many medium to large business units is years (or decades) behind the impact this is having. I wrote up a post a week or two ago on “top CMO quotes” that I had heard in the past six months from veteran marketers at enterprise corporations.

We can all get a little chuckle out of stuff like this, but as long as big business turns a blind eye to eduction in this realm, the snake oil salesman are going to be banging on every door asking for a check.

~Barry Hurd

]]> By: Terry Harmon http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7227 Terry Harmon Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:34:18 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7227 The fact of the matter is, a lot of so called "SEO" companies pray on the fact that people are seeking their services because they don't know anything about search engine optimization. There needs to be some sort of checks and balances system...maybe hire another consultant to check the work of SEO's!!! :) The fact of the matter is, a lot of so called “SEO” companies pray on the fact that people are seeking their services because they don’t know anything about search engine optimization. There needs to be some sort of checks and balances system…maybe hire another consultant to check the work of SEO’s!!! :)

]]> By: Matt Foster http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7226 Matt Foster Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:53:01 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7226 Thank you, thank you, thank you for this. I rarely comment on articles I see, but this is by far and the best summation of the crap that muddles our industry. The use of the word "indignation" about sums it up. This should be required reading for all potential SEO clients. Thank you for taking a bold stance on the snake oil, and using clear and convincing language to communicate all of our thoughts. Respectfully, Matt Foster, CEO, ArteWorks SEO. Thank you, thank you, thank you for this. I rarely comment on articles I see, but this is by far and the best summation of the crap that muddles our industry. The use of the word “indignation” about sums it up. This should be required reading for all potential SEO clients. Thank you for taking a bold stance on the snake oil, and using clear and convincing language to communicate all of our thoughts. Respectfully, Matt Foster, CEO, ArteWorks SEO.

]]> By: Marty Weintraub http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7219 Marty Weintraub Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:00:07 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7219 Thanks for these comments and support. We expect this sort of punk-junk to be even more prevalent as our ranks swell. It's really the same as it ever was, with even more blue hue monkeys' red-faced interactive sales rep'-losers coming to call with, stupid rhetoric designed as a sad (& failed) attempt to grub biz from actual professional SEOs. @Lee Odden, thanks for appreciating the intent of this post and kind words. @Carri Bugebee, thanks for the anecdote. Cheers :). Thanks for these comments and support. We expect this sort of punk-junk to be even more prevalent as our ranks swell. It’s really the same as it ever was, with even more blue hue monkeys’ red-faced interactive sales rep’-losers coming to call with, stupid rhetoric designed as a sad (& failed) attempt to grub biz from actual professional SEOs.

@Lee Odden, thanks for appreciating the intent of this post and kind words. @Carri Bugebee, thanks for the anecdote. Cheers :) .

]]> By: Lee Odden http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/07/28/seo-predators-prepared-to-suck-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-7218 Lee Odden Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:13:18 +0000 http://www.aimclearblog.com/?p=3593#comment-7218 Well written and well done Marty! Well written and well done Marty!

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