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		<title>By: Marty Weintraub</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4560</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Weintraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Binaryman: Thanks for making your point. .com will, and always will be, lakefront property (They&#039;re not making any more of it). There is a plethora of available extensions out there (.info, .biz, .ca, .TONS of options). 

I respect your opinion but, to my mind, I would &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; advise a client to choose a .mobi because the .com is not available.  For one thing, do you think MyCompany.com, with a service mark on the name, would not think it to be a violation if a MyCompany.mobi showed up?

Also, the branding implications are serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Binaryman: Thanks for making your point. .com will, and always will be, lakefront property (They&#8217;re not making any more of it). There is a plethora of available extensions out there (.info, .biz, .ca, .TONS of options). </p>
<p>I respect your opinion but, to my mind, I would <i>never</i> advise a client to choose a .mobi because the .com is not available.  For one thing, do you think MyCompany.com, with a service mark on the name, would not think it to be a violation if a MyCompany.mobi showed up?</p>
<p>Also, the branding implications are serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Binaryman</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Binaryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point that Mrs. Lieb forgets also and a point that is not thought of very often is that there are many companies and businesses out there that do not have a .COM site as it&#039;s already taken by someone else. Yes there can only be one .com site of any type or kind obviously. Everyday new businesses come into being and many of them find that when they want to start a website the .com is not available as it is already in operation by a company in a similar line of business. So they can turn to .net (if available) or .info( if available) or maybe a country tld 
None of these other options if available has as much allure as a .com site. But now there&#039;s .Mobi and there&#039;s still a lot of available options there (more so then with .com) and .Mobi whilst primarily a site for access by mobile devices can be viewed equally well from a home based PC
Get my point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point that Mrs. Lieb forgets also and a point that is not thought of very often is that there are many companies and businesses out there that do not have a .COM site as it&#8217;s already taken by someone else. Yes there can only be one .com site of any type or kind obviously. Everyday new businesses come into being and many of them find that when they want to start a website the .com is not available as it is already in operation by a company in a similar line of business. So they can turn to .net (if available) or .info( if available) or maybe a country tld<br />
None of these other options if available has as much allure as a .com site. But now there&#8217;s .Mobi and there&#8217;s still a lot of available options there (more so then with .com) and .Mobi whilst primarily a site for access by mobile devices can be viewed equally well from a home based PC<br />
Get my point?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4237</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read the SEOChampions Blog I can see why the guy was frustrated, this woman (Lieb?) is making the fatal mistake that all the mobile internet is (to her at least) is finding a way to view the internet (as is! - i.e. status quo 2008) on a small screen device. - enter iphone... class dismisses.

What she fails to grasp is the enormity of the mobilenet (circa 2010 - 2015) and the inevitability that there will soon (by soon I mean 3 to 5 years) be more web access &#039;visits&#039; made via these small screen devices than desk top PC&#039;s.

Personally, I think there is a vacuum to be filled where those with existing websites need to fill the &#039;mobile space&#039; and that needs to be done on a case by case basis - some companies may just require a mobile front page with contact details... some companies will have sites offering ecommerce on their most popular or latest products, some sites will wish to have full blown ecommerce sites, others will simply have a mobile access site - take ringtones &amp; wallpapers for example - why load these via a PC when you can load straight to the device?
Obviously the same goes for music - it won&#039;t be long before PC&#039;s don&#039;t see as much action loading MP3&#039;s as mobile devices will...
Then there are companies that have services which have an &#039;on the move&#039; element to them... bus companies, train companies, airlines, ferrys, car hire, weather, gigs, events, churches &amp; mosques even...  the mobile sites will evolve to become independent offerings - that is the BIG USP that these dies in the wool SEO people don&#039;t &#039;get&#039; (yet) 
Sooner or later they will begin to realise that mobile sites are not best utilised when simply trying to shink down the desk-top version for a small screen... the mobilenet is a huge opportunity for marketing, promotion, services &amp; of course evolution of the internet / mobilenet.

Take a look at the hundreds of pages of resources at mtld.mobi  /  dev.mobi etc...  and of course for a brief but compelling overview take a look at WHY.mobi

It is my professional opinion that these self-proclaimed experts are really misleading their clients and their conference guests by completely overlooking the opportunities that the mobile net &amp; dot.mobi have to offer and are instead treating it as a &#039;problem&#039; to be resolved...  It&#039;s true of all things I suppose; where some see trouble, others see opportunity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the SEOChampions Blog I can see why the guy was frustrated, this woman (Lieb?) is making the fatal mistake that all the mobile internet is (to her at least) is finding a way to view the internet (as is! &#8211; i.e. status quo 2008) on a small screen device. &#8211; enter iphone&#8230; class dismisses.</p>
<p>What she fails to grasp is the enormity of the mobilenet (circa 2010 &#8211; 2015) and the inevitability that there will soon (by soon I mean 3 to 5 years) be more web access &#8216;visits&#8217; made via these small screen devices than desk top PC&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Personally, I think there is a vacuum to be filled where those with existing websites need to fill the &#8216;mobile space&#8217; and that needs to be done on a case by case basis &#8211; some companies may just require a mobile front page with contact details&#8230; some companies will have sites offering ecommerce on their most popular or latest products, some sites will wish to have full blown ecommerce sites, others will simply have a mobile access site &#8211; take ringtones &amp; wallpapers for example &#8211; why load these via a PC when you can load straight to the device?<br />
Obviously the same goes for music &#8211; it won&#8217;t be long before PC&#8217;s don&#8217;t see as much action loading MP3&#8217;s as mobile devices will&#8230;<br />
Then there are companies that have services which have an &#8216;on the move&#8217; element to them&#8230; bus companies, train companies, airlines, ferrys, car hire, weather, gigs, events, churches &amp; mosques even&#8230;  the mobile sites will evolve to become independent offerings &#8211; that is the BIG USP that these dies in the wool SEO people don&#8217;t &#8216;get&#8217; (yet)<br />
Sooner or later they will begin to realise that mobile sites are not best utilised when simply trying to shink down the desk-top version for a small screen&#8230; the mobilenet is a huge opportunity for marketing, promotion, services &amp; of course evolution of the internet / mobilenet.</p>
<p>Take a look at the hundreds of pages of resources at mtld.mobi  /  dev.mobi etc&#8230;  and of course for a brief but compelling overview take a look at WHY.mobi</p>
<p>It is my professional opinion that these self-proclaimed experts are really misleading their clients and their conference guests by completely overlooking the opportunities that the mobile net &amp; dot.mobi have to offer and are instead treating it as a &#8216;problem&#8217; to be resolved&#8230;  It&#8217;s true of all things I suppose; where some see trouble, others see opportunity!</p>
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		<title>By: Johny.mobi</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4230</link>
		<dc:creator>Johny.mobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this very true and this effort seemed very inspiring for the future of the mobile web NOT!!!!  :D

Please get your facts straight.  If you think that the iphone killed.mobi, then go to http://Zem.mobi on your iphone.   Do you own an iPhone Rebecca? 

And if you think MizPEE.com is a good moble site, then try http://johny.mobi and you tell me which site is more informative and loads quicker and updated every day and only at its beging stages. 

I always remeber this saying from my 8th grade teacher 19 years ago and she was a catholic nun.  This is directed at people that are afraid of .mobi becoming huge eventualy (which it is) .mobi sites are only poping up more and more every day now.  ANyway here is that saying to who ever thinks .mobi is dead and over.

&quot;Confusious says:  HE WHO KNOWS WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW IS STUPID!&quot;  I never understood that when I was younger, but more and more Every year, I am starting to understand what it acutaly means!&quot;


PS if .mobi is dead, then why did http://autotrader.mobi just spring up? And many more sites that you dont know about from many major companies have been springing up.

Last question....Why are you so affraid of .mobi Rebbeca?  Everyone is waiting your anwer, obviosuly there is some kind of fear IMHO.

Johny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this very true and this effort seemed very inspiring for the future of the mobile web NOT!!!!  <img src='http://www.aimclearblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please get your facts straight.  If you think that the iphone killed.mobi, then go to <a href="http://Zem.mobi" rel="nofollow">http://Zem.mobi</a> on your iphone.   Do you own an iPhone Rebecca? </p>
<p>And if you think MizPEE.com is a good moble site, then try <a href="http://johny.mobi" rel="nofollow">http://johny.mobi</a> and you tell me which site is more informative and loads quicker and updated every day and only at its beging stages. </p>
<p>I always remeber this saying from my 8th grade teacher 19 years ago and she was a catholic nun.  This is directed at people that are afraid of .mobi becoming huge eventualy (which it is) .mobi sites are only poping up more and more every day now.  ANyway here is that saying to who ever thinks .mobi is dead and over.</p>
<p>&#8220;Confusious says:  HE WHO KNOWS WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW IS STUPID!&#8221;  I never understood that when I was younger, but more and more Every year, I am starting to understand what it acutaly means!&#8221;</p>
<p>PS if .mobi is dead, then why did <a href="http://autotrader.mobi" rel="nofollow">http://autotrader.mobi</a> just spring up? And many more sites that you dont know about from many major companies have been springing up.</p>
<p>Last question&#8230;.Why are you so affraid of .mobi Rebbeca?  Everyone is waiting your anwer, obviosuly there is some kind of fear IMHO.</p>
<p>Johny</p>
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		<title>By: Charlene Jaszewski</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlene Jaszewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>84t.mobi: thanks for link! I&#039;ll have to check it. Ther&#039;es nothing wrong with challenging info, but he was quite adversarial (and pompous) about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>84t.mobi: thanks for link! I&#8217;ll have to check it. Ther&#8217;es nothing wrong with challenging info, but he was quite adversarial (and pompous) about it.</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps most annoying would be those that call themselves experts on SEO and SEM but offer such advice as &quot;do nothing&quot; in regards to a mobile site. 

Can any explain, in detail, why all of a sudden a device like the iPhone is the death of dot mobi? I ask this because as these comments are rehashed from even before the iPhone release.

And as the site 84T.mobi clearly explains and SHOWS, the viewing of a full page PC site is hardly optimal on the iphone for the viewer&#039;s experience. Seems like that is the one equation missing all these discussions and meet ups. If folks in attendance would stop and view themselves as consumers and approach these from that standpoint then I think everyone would be singing a different tune.

Not to mention that their whole advice is based on a product that occupies less than a 9% market share of the smart phone market. 

Sure, that&#039;s what I want to do...ignore the other 91% of the market.

Naturally you can assume that I am involved with .mobi from my points. Yet you would be missing the point which is...do nothing and their other options are not viable from a business and marketing standpoint.

Plus, besides being a domainer and successful business person, I am above all a consumer and their advice, if followed, have just spoiled the entire mobile-sphere and my experience of using a mobile device to connect to the internet.

While we can chastise the heckler as being unprofessional (in all seriousness well deserving rebuttal) it is grossly unprofessional to not explore all options of the now and future mobile web. Then again, in another column, Ms. Krum related that the word &quot;mobile web&quot; is misused and does not actually exist.

Yup, I want to put all my trust and confidence in someone leading me in the path of ignoring 91% of the market.

If you are not convinced that there are viable options, then please check out 84T.mobi and why.mobi. Oh, they work equally well and flawlessly on the phone and PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps most annoying would be those that call themselves experts on SEO and SEM but offer such advice as &#8220;do nothing&#8221; in regards to a mobile site. </p>
<p>Can any explain, in detail, why all of a sudden a device like the iPhone is the death of dot mobi? I ask this because as these comments are rehashed from even before the iPhone release.</p>
<p>And as the site 84T.mobi clearly explains and SHOWS, the viewing of a full page PC site is hardly optimal on the iphone for the viewer&#8217;s experience. Seems like that is the one equation missing all these discussions and meet ups. If folks in attendance would stop and view themselves as consumers and approach these from that standpoint then I think everyone would be singing a different tune.</p>
<p>Not to mention that their whole advice is based on a product that occupies less than a 9% market share of the smart phone market. </p>
<p>Sure, that&#8217;s what I want to do&#8230;ignore the other 91% of the market.</p>
<p>Naturally you can assume that I am involved with .mobi from my points. Yet you would be missing the point which is&#8230;do nothing and their other options are not viable from a business and marketing standpoint.</p>
<p>Plus, besides being a domainer and successful business person, I am above all a consumer and their advice, if followed, have just spoiled the entire mobile-sphere and my experience of using a mobile device to connect to the internet.</p>
<p>While we can chastise the heckler as being unprofessional (in all seriousness well deserving rebuttal) it is grossly unprofessional to not explore all options of the now and future mobile web. Then again, in another column, Ms. Krum related that the word &#8220;mobile web&#8221; is misused and does not actually exist.</p>
<p>Yup, I want to put all my trust and confidence in someone leading me in the path of ignoring 91% of the market.</p>
<p>If you are not convinced that there are viable options, then please check out 84T.mobi and why.mobi. Oh, they work equally well and flawlessly on the phone and PC.</p>
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		<title>By: 84t.mobi</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4226</link>
		<dc:creator>84t.mobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy blogged about it on his site seochampion.com.   Not defending bad behaviour, but that also applies to the presenters - some of what they said was not sound advice according to mobienthusiast.mobi - so if they picked a provocative title maybe they should expect a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy blogged about it on his site seochampion.com.   Not defending bad behaviour, but that also applies to the presenters &#8211; some of what they said was not sound advice according to mobienthusiast.mobi &#8211; so if they picked a provocative title maybe they should expect a response.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Weintraub</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4167</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Weintraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jimhedger: Thank goodness we have a serious journalist to keep track of all of this! It&#039;s nice to see you Jim and always good to meet you in these threads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jimhedger: Thank goodness we have a serious journalist to keep track of all of this! It&#8217;s nice to see you Jim and always good to meet you in these threads.</p>
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		<title>By: Search Engine Optimization Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.aimclearblog.com/2008/08/24/be-a-search-conference-jackass-in-8-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-4160</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engine Optimization Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty funny stuff... I can only imagine what the heckler was like - annoying!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty funny stuff&#8230; I can only imagine what the heckler was like &#8211; annoying!</p>
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		<title>By: jimhedger</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimhedger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaan... You had to see the &quot;Champion&quot; to get where Charlene is coming from in a few of her points. This guy was too much.  Seriously.... It&#039;s hard to believe someone would act like that. If he accomplished one thing at SES SJ, it was to become an industry legend. (He is well on his way to becoming a fable too).

The champ hit six of the eight points Char makes. Mr. Pink-shirt man, I didn&#039;t meet though I might be the jerk she refers to who had to take a phone call (on silent vibe ring) and leave the room during the first session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaan&#8230; You had to see the &#8220;Champion&#8221; to get where Charlene is coming from in a few of her points. This guy was too much.  Seriously&#8230;. It&#8217;s hard to believe someone would act like that. If he accomplished one thing at SES SJ, it was to become an industry legend. (He is well on his way to becoming a fable too).</p>
<p>The champ hit six of the eight points Char makes. Mr. Pink-shirt man, I didn&#8217;t meet though I might be the jerk she refers to who had to take a phone call (on silent vibe ring) and leave the room during the first session.</p>
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